155: How to Build Customer-Obsessed Cultures (That Don’t Burn Out Your Team) | Van Battle

Release Date: 

April 17, 2025

Release Date: Apr 17

“73% of customers say experience is a key factor in their purchasing decisions just behind price and product quality,” according to a report from PwC.

Customer experience is no longer just a support function of your business... it’s a leadership strategy.

In this episode, we’re joined by Van Battle, a seasoned customer experience leader who has first hand experience on how it can improve a company’s success based on his career working with brands like Jamba Juice, Urban Remedy, and The Sharper Image.

What You’ll Learn:

  • The real difference between customer service and customer experience
  • How to turn your support team into your company’s most strategic asset
  • Why empathy is a leadership skill
  • How “minor league” development programs can retain top talent
  • What most companies get wrong when using AI in customer experience
  • How to empower reps to resolve issues without escalating every time
  • What leaders must do to instill a culture of ownership

In This Episode:

  • 00:16 – Leading through stewardship: what it looks like
  • 01:09 – Lessons from the restaurant world: empathy starts on the frontlines
  • 03:26 – The invisible value of busboys and call center reps
  • 05:18 – Why Van sends reps into stores and orders their own products
  • 06:58 – Customer service vs. customer experience
  • 08:46 – Anticipating issues before they happen
  • 10:23 – Turning reps into “insight engines”
  • 12:32 – Avoiding burnout: how to distribute workload fairly
  • 13:40 – Baseball, development, and team balance
  • 14:57 – The “minor league program” for career growth
  • 17:11 – Upskilling with Learnit: real examples that worked
  • 19:03 – Creating a culture of learning and mobility
  • 20:04 – Training teams to own the resolution
  • 22:45 – Building confidence through empowerment
  • 23:39 – When the customer isn’t right—and how to respond
  • 25:22 – Tracking patterns to prevent abuse
  • 26:52 – Balancing trust between customer and employee
  • 29:36 – How to turn customer data into internal action
  • 32:01 – Getting specific: “friendly” means what exactly?
  • 33:18 – How customer expectations have evolved
  • 35:52 – Humanizing digital experiences in a tech-first world
  • 37:49 – What Southwest’s shift says about customer loyalty
  • 39:14 – What AI should never replace
  • 41:04 – Will AI replace frontline workers?
  • 42:47 – Van’s biggest leadership lesson about customer experience

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